"This is not a problem; it is an opportunity." AEP's Mike Heyeck discussed the resurgence of energy decision-making at the state level in the United States in the absence of a coherent federal energy policy.ABB's Burdett quoted a lobbyist friend of his saying, "In my 40 years as a lobbyist inside the beltway, this is the most dysfunctional government I have ever seen." Burdett pointed to a lack of a national energy policy as an example.
Ron May responded that no cogent energy policy hurts long term investment. "We don't know what long term policy will be, so we don't know what to invest in," he said. "We need decisions on oil policy, nuclear policy and grid investment."
Heyeck agreed, "But as Joe Hogan said in his keynote this morning, this is not a problem; it is an opportunity. We have all-time record coal exports. We have good penetration in most states for renewables. The states have taken charge of setting energy policy. I don't think we are as dysfunctional as your friend thinks. I am a student of history, and when you think back to the Jackson v. Adams campaign, and the others, it isn't any more dysfunctional than it was back then—we just hear about it 24/7 from the media. Texas is an example of what you can do when regulatory agencies and requirements are pared down. They wanted many gigawatts of wind power, and they went out and did it. This is an example of government not being dysfunctional."
"We support any regulatory climate," Paul Wyman interjected, "that exists. Our customers drive our investment decisions. If we wait for the federal government to make policy before we make investments, we'd never get anything done."
"What about NERC (National Electrical Reliability Corporation)?" Burdett asked.
Heyeck responded, "Reliability is in our blood at AEP. Conceptually, the NERC CIPs are okay, but they are way too prescriptive. If NERC becomes more like the nuclear industry, we may have an asset here, but we are early in the process. Ron May agreed. "We don't have a transmission company at DTE, but we all have a sense of urgency toward the CIPs and other reliability requirements. What we need is an even-handed smart mechanism for ensuring reliability."
"What about cybersecurity?" Burdett asked. "You are all high value targets."
"Oh, we get attacked," Wyman said. "Over 400 times a day. But what's significant? We have to create systems and tools that can filter threats that don't matter and concentrate on those that do. We are confidentially threat-sharing with 17 utilities including AEP, with NIST and with NERC. But as far as the CIPs are concerned, we have to remember that compliance does not always equal improved security."
May agreed. "We get attacked all the time. Cyber- and physical security are very important, especially in our nuclear plants."
"This is a continuing battle," Heyeck said. "We have to watch out for control systems, and the government has to talk to us in a quicker way. The more reliant we become on technology, the more we have to design new mechanisms against cyber attacks, solar storms and whatever. We can't stand still."
"What keeps me up at night?" Heyeck said. "Nothing. It is all about what you're doing about it." Wyman agreed. "Mitigation strategy is critical," he said.
"For me," Ron May said, "dealing with what keeps me up at night is all wrapped around what we do about it. The drivers are customer satisfaction and customer service and how to keep making it better."